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     Rick Posted From: 205.188.208.40 |
Pine Tree Lane is a very nice road. It isn't used much therefor it doesn't have many potholes (except for the big dip at the end). However at the Shenandoah Drive end of the lane there is a great deal of bushes, tree limbs, etc that over hang so far that it is very dangerous to exit the lane. You cannot see if there is any oncoming traffic. The owner of the property that these overhanging shrubs is on does not trim the back. You can also see this when exiting at on the road above Pine Tree Lane (I don't remember the name of the street). I am wondering if I can go out and do the community a favor and clean these bushes up by trimming them back. The owner doesn't do it, the civic doesn't do it so I guess I will. Please reply ASAP before someone gets hit. | ||
| Ricky Posted From: 205.188.208.40 |
I'm sorry. The road I am calling Shenandoah Drive is actually Country Club Drive. Sorry. | ||
| Eddie Pauls Posted From: 63.188.96.52 |
Ricky, The best thing I can suggest is to contact Bill Ramsey (BRACA President - 725-4167) and see what action he can take. | ||
| Rick Posted From: 205.188.208.40 |
I appreciate the response very much. However, my question was could I do it. The time I'd spend contact the proper person(s) to get the job taken care of would take longer than me doing it myself. I am volunteering to take care of the problem. I just want the OK on the deal. Before I go cutting down the shrubs that cause the problem I wanted to make sure that I have the right to do so. While I'm on that subject I am willing to volunteer my time to load up a truck with gravel and spread it on the roads that need it done. Can I use my own truck, go up to the barn, load up some gravel, and go spread it accordingly? I am willing to make my best attempt in filling in the potholes which need attention. | ||
| Rick Posted From: 205.188.208.40 |
Well? | ||
| Chip Gallo Posted From: 170.215.143.123 |
Rick - we can't give you permission to cut down shrubs on another person's property. Suggest you contact Bill Ramsey as he will know how the Civic Association handles these situations. Same with using gravel -- it should be coordinated through the Civic. You can understand that they need to account for material used, etc. It's great that you want to help. A small amount of coordination can prevent problems down the road (no pun intended). | ||
| Don J. Orser Posted From: 209.190.166.102 |
Hi Rick! Thanks for your offer of help. You can contact Fred Horning or Marc Wilson, both on the BRACA Roads Committee for coordinating gravel. Gravel is a poor material to fill potholes as it just comes out. Shale/clay is better with gravel on top. I have a shale/clay pit but it takes two people to load and fill potholes. With respect to bushes in right-of-way, these bushes should be cut back. If you are unsure as to who the owner is I can tell you if you tell me exactly (section and lot) where you are wanting to cut. I can be reached at 725-8948. Don J. Orser | ||
| Rick Posted From: 64.12.96.170 |
Chip - The shrubs that I'm talking about do start their growth on the owner's property but the rest of them overhang out into the road. The same ones you have to swirve to avoid are the same ones that disable one from being able to see if traffic is coming down the hill. Also, no offense AT ALL.... "...as he will know how the Civic Association handles these situations...". Well, I've been in BRA for almost 15 years. Usually someone other than the home owner clears the shrubs back(this person is also not from the Civic), and every year the owner sees it, expresses that he/she did not know it was a hazard, and goes about their business. So in response to "..how the Civic Association handles these situations.." They don't. They haven't for 15 years, and I truly don't see a change in it. Don - Thanks. I know who the home owner is, and as I stated before he obviously has been aware that there was a problem before (why wouldn't there be one now) and has done nothing about it. Also, you know a lot about the rules and regulations of the Civic so maybe you can answer this question. The question comes from something Chip said about not being able to cut down shrubs from one's property. Does the Civic not have a "X" ammount of right of way from the center of the road? For example from the center of the road the Civic has a 10ft right of way in either direction. I do hope that makes sense. | ||
| Don J. Orser Posted From: 209.190.166.191 |
Hi Rick! The "roads" are plated just like lots are in Blue Ridge Acres and are thirty feet in width. For the most part, the roads lie within the thirty feet but are typically not down the middle and on occasion are even off the thirty foot "right-of-way". The road "by usage" does not define where the "right-of-way is, but rather the plat and lot corner monuments which correspond to the plat. The "dominant tenements", those who have the right to traverse the roads, which includes all lot owners, have the right of safe traversal and therefore the right to clear brush, limbs etc., back to the edge of the plated right-of-way. The edge of the right-of-way is "from the center of the earth to the stars". (That's the actual legal definition! There's also lots of "easements", for example, airplanes have an unstated easement across your land.) While you have the right to cut back roadside brush, assuming it is clearly in the right-of-way, it may be worth telling the adjacent lot owner your intentions first so as not to get in a fight with him over where exactly the boundary line is. Some folks would rather have a limb cut back at the tree trunk on their lot as oppossed to having a four foot stub sticking out to the lot boundary. Note that there are also ten-foot wide utility easements centered typically along right-of-way boundaries and on lot rear boundaries that can also be cleared of brush, though this is normally done by Allegheny contractors. As a practical matter, it's best to informally let someone on the BRACA Board/Roads Committee, know of your intentions to cut brush at a specific location prior to your actually doing so. We need all the help we can get to keep the brush back. Thanks again for your offer to help. Don J. Orser | ||
| Rick Posted From: 205.188.208.40 |
I would like to thank whoever cleared the spoken of brush. I went out and cleared it back by Pine Tree Lane about a month ago. However, I couldn't do a very good job being that all I had to cut with was some pruners and the fact that I ran into a couple bees nests. Thanks again. |