| Author | Message | ||
     lavmab Posted From: 67.136.76.8 |
Is it true that you need a combination or key to a gate to gain access to the river? Is this something everyone in BRA is entitled to? Who do we contact for access? Thanks | ||
| Chip Gallo Posted From: 170.215.143.123 |
The Community Club owns the land along the river. You must be a member of the club to use the property. Contact Ron Kaufman [ron@blueridgeacres.org] or any other board member for membership information. See this page for a list of board members: http://www.blueridgeacres.org/2003ccboard.htm Chip | ||
| lavmab Posted From: 205.188.116.16 |
Im sorry I think we are all entitled to use the damn river. we pay dues here (so called road dues) and we get nothing for that so what the hell is the big deal that we cant even use the river for free?How can anyone stop use from using a public river? are the club board members god? you all need to get a life! | ||
| Eddie Pauls Posted From: 209.183.249.202 |
While I don't agree altogether with "Lavmab'" comments, I would like to see some flexibility in how the social club's facilities can be used and charged for. Lavmab: The dues for the 2 organizations cover different areas of responsibility - civic association (roads) and the social club (other activities - pool, river access and general maintenance of grounds). As there is no club house right now and the pool is not available, I am in favor of splitting the fees so that people can have access to the river for a reasonable fee that can be used for the upkeep of the river front. | ||
| Chip Gallo Posted From: 206.229.31.31 |
Suggest you read this: http://www.blueridgeacres.org/images/bra_kincaid_24july03.jpg | ||
| AntonDenikin Posted From: 67.137.248.211 |
I read the "bra kincaid 24 July 03" document. 3000-3500 for lawn mowing? Surely some of us could volunteer our time and gas to mow the common areas? If I'm in town I'd have no problem doing it. | ||
| guess who Posted From: 205.188.116.16 |
Amen to you lavmab! I agree i dont know how the hell anyone can stop us from using the river. They don't own it and if you go down there you can walk right into that area. oh my we cant park our cars. tuff shit to the asses in the club park anyplace you can! I'm not paying to join a club to get nothing in return. no pool, no clubhouse, no nothing so im not stupid like them i aint payin over $200.00 to fish!! we need to unite and clean up both boards. the farmers on them are as dumb as they look!!!! | ||
| Eddie Pauls Posted From: 209.183.249.202 |
Guess Who: I agree that no-one can stop you from using the river. There is a gate and people can simply walk around it. The river is not owned by anyone BUT that stretch of the riverfront IS owned by the social club. I also agree (as I have stated earlier that we should split the fees for the services we can use). What really angers me as an ex BRACA board member is that there are a few people who serve on the board that care enough to actually do something and there are plenty of others who take the time to complain and do nothing else let alone pay the fees they are supposed to pay. Guess Who: If you or anyone else feels so strongly, do something besides complaining for a change and join one of the boards vacant positions and make a difference. | ||
| Guess who Posted From: 205.188.116.16 |
hey Eddie guess what there are alot of new homeowners here in BRA and dont be to suprised about a few things that will soon happen. I've heard talk that some of the new people will challenge the D.O.F on the current boards and there will be changes! dont be suprised but within the next 2 board meetings there will be changes, tempers flyin and im sure board members quiting!! we are all sick of the same old bullshit excuses we hear form the ODF on the currnet board. We need time to re group, and get our shit together so that when we do clean house up there.( we know what we are doing.)(unlike the ODF we now have sitting there doing nothing) Once there are new people (with Intelligence unlike the ones there now) you will see a change around here!!! On that note all the OLD DUMB FARMERS best keep an eye or 2 open and start packin their bags!!!! Change will happen very soon and our money will be well spent! I do want to thank you Eddie as to you are the only one on the board past or present that has any balls to even try to answer anyones letters here> my hats off to you and when we do take over i hope you will join us in cleaning this dump up! | ||
| Eddie Pauls Posted From: 209.183.249.202 |
Guess who: Firstly, I know from past experience of sitting on the board that the members are typically NOT DOF's. Some of them work full time either running their own business or have retired from government employment. I have the highest respect for many of those that have served in the past and currently serve now. I cannot speak for the Country Club Board, however the challenge that all BRACA boards have had since BRA first started is "participation and support" from the community. (Check the list of people on the front news board who have not paid their fees. A board that represents the community can only do so much with limited financial resources and volunteers.) Over the past few years while I was a board member I witnessed a change in the way the board made itself accountable to the community as a whole. Board meetings were opened up to all members even though attendance at the meetings has always been almost nil (the offer has been there). I am sure that many frustrated members of the community would feel that the board was offering explanations rather than excuses had they attended the board meetings and been aware of what the board tries to achieve with the limited resources available to them. The members of the recent boards have resolved a long standing dispute between several members of previous boards and a community member so that the drain on community's resources has been resolved. These are not the actions of a group of DOF's but represent the efforts of a small group of enlightened individuals who volunteer their personal effort into the community when they are not required to do so. I also know from past experience that the costing of what the members of the community expect of the roads cannot be balanced against the realities of the actual costing of having the expected work done. Eg: Contractors for paving and snow removal won't work within the limited budget that BRA has to work with, even if everyone did pay their fees. So any board has to make choices as to which tasks have priority. This means that the board cannot please everyone. So these are observations from my experience that some people may possibly not be aware of because they have not been involved with the board. It's okay to make observations and be frustrated about the situation we have at BRA (I am just as frustrated as other community members), however we need to focus on solutions. I am extremely glad that community members such as yourself are keen to get involved with the board. Being involved is the first step. I will gladly do what I can to assist. For health reasons I had to retire from the board and have had to limit the involvement I have on this web site. (I am looking to find someone with HTML/Dreamweaver internet experience that can take over the maintenance). Lastly, thank you for your comments regarding the website. I will take the opportunity of attending the next meeting on the 17th August and will look forward to meeting you and anyone else who is looking to take a positive interest in the future of the community. | ||
| DAVIS8700 Posted From: 64.12.116.16 |
To Everyone: As you probably know, I am one of those DOF on the Civic Board. I also can understand everyone's frustration. Everyone that is presently on the Board is really trying their best, given what we have to work with. I think it is great that so other property owners are planning to get involved. I will say this, instead of trying to oust the present Board, why don't you join the few that are already there. Things are easier in numbers. If you all are still intent on replacing us, I think I speak for alll the present Board to say "PLEASE DO"! Our families will be indebted to you. | ||
| lavmab Posted From: 67.137.248.47 |
I would like to say publicly what I said privately to Chip Gallo, Eddie Pauls and Davis8700. I am the lavmab who asked the original question on July 10th regarding river access. The person who posted on July 22nd, under my user name, was not me. Evidently this person is not computer savvy or he or she would know that his/her AOL ip address is the same as shown under 'Guess Who'. Looks like someone has a lot of time on their hands. It might be fun to go thru the other postings and see how many other identities this person has used to create trouble. | ||
| Chip Gallo Posted From: 170.215.143.123 |
Thanks for the clarification. I had asked the Community Club Board for permission to upgrade this discussion board to require user registration with working e-mail address and real name prior to a person being allowed to post. It would help prevent this kind of thing from happening. Chip |